My personal opinion about Stan *WARNING MAY PISS OFF StanFan! OR ANY OTHER STAN FAN*

[TheultimateKylefanboy1092]

*Now, if your a Stan fan, and you really like him, then don't read this. I got plenty of other cool stuff coming up. I'm gonna post that interview with Cartooncutie, maybe i'll interview greenboy, and other nice stuff. I just gotta spread this, it's been stabbing me in the back for a long time.*

Hey everyone, this is Kylefanboy1092, bringing you some kickass stuff for this site. And today i'm gonna be talking about Stan Marsh. Their are some people on the site who like him more than Kyle. But, I gotta ask you this guy's, what's cool about him? He's kinda boring, he doesn't really do much in the show, and sometimes I can just get bored to death with him. Now, I don't hate Stan, it's just when you compare him to the other SP char's, it's just got "Ass" written all over it. Stan doesn't really get many line's in some episode's, and the only thing I like about him is his friendship moment's with Kyle. My point, Stan is an alright character, but he need's to be less boring, M,Kay? Now, if you guy's type in any reply's like "OMG! How could you hate Stan?! You retard!!" or, "Stan doesn't have "Ass" written all over him, you do." then you should not have read this post, ya noob.

Thank's for reading, and be sure to tune into my next work, or I will take you back to 1997, and make you watch another show that isn't SP that suck's ass. *joke*

[StanFan!]

Haha, don't worry I'm not pissed off. I understand what you are saying and I respect you opinion. I honestly like Stan more in the beginning of the series because now hes just kinda like in the background.

[bridon#1fan]

yeah i respect your opinion too dude. i prefer stan in the older episodes, i don't mind him in the new too.

[secondsilykyle09]

Same here. As much as I like Stan, I have to admit it would be nice if he was less boring.

[Mutt]

Yeah I too find Stan a bit boring in my hierarchy of the favorite boys I place Stan last even BELOW Cartman. My list Kenny,Kyle,Cartman, Stan.

And out of the four Stan just seems so normal for South Park in my opinion he's like plain white bread maybe butter, no jelly or peanut butter to add, with a cup of luke warm water. Hopes I'm not pissing any Stan fans off myself with that comment XD but as much as I don't care for him the four wouldn't be the same without him and he is Kyle's best friend ,though I rarely ever see Stan stand up for Kyle anymore like when Cartman just lays out all those Jews jokes and Stan just watches and does/says nothing...some best friend. In one word to me he's just boring.

[JVM]

Stan in the early seasons was interesting because he was naive, and the more sensitive of the boys. He was the one always chasing after Wendy, always making mistakes, and always having those normal-kid problems the others more rarely faced.

Starting around mid-season six, Stan and Kyle have in my opinion, almost literally swapped roles. Kyle has become the more thoughtful, sensitive voice of reason and Stan is the more easily angered sick-of-stupidity kid. Stan's roles are usually mostly in attachment to his father's stupidity, much like how Kyle often entered and was important due to his mother's overreacting.

I think part of why Stan seems boring is because Trey does all the writing. Stan is based on Trey's good side. (Cartman being his and everyone else's bad side) I've learned sometimes it's hard to write exactly what you'd do.

[bridon#1fan]

i agree with some of the things you said.

[TheultimateKylefanboy1092]

Wow, look at all these people agreeing with me. POWER!!!!! *just joking. Don't worry, i'm not a power monster. But i'm glad you guy's agree with me. =)*

[IronWillStan]

*Now, if your a Stan fan, and you really like him, then don't read this. I got plenty of other cool stuff coming up. I'm gonna post that interview with Cartooncutie, maybe i'll interview greenboy, and other nice stuff. I just gotta spread this, it's been stabbing me in the back for a long time.*

Hey everyone, this is Kylefanboy1092, bringing you some kickass stuff for this site. And today i'm gonna be talking about Stan Marsh. Their are some people on the site who like him more than Kyle. But, I gotta ask you this guy's, what's cool about him? He's kinda boring, he doesn't really do much in the show, and sometimes I can just get bored to death with him. Now, I don't hate Stan, it's just when you compare him to the other SP char's, it's just got "Ass" written all over it. Stan doesn't really get many line's in some episode's, and the only thing I like about him is his friendship moment's with Kyle. My point, Stan is an alright character, but he need's to be less boring, M,Kay? Now, if you guy's type in any reply's like "OMG! How could you hate Stan?! You retard!!" or, "Stan doesn't have "Ass" written all over him, you do." then you should not have read this post, ya noob.

Thank's for reading, and be sure to tune into my next work, or I will take you back to 1997, and make you watch another show that isn't SP that suck's ass. *joke*


*Breaks out the brass knuckles.*

Just kidding.

However, I take issue with calling Stan boring. He, himself, is not boring- he is, instead, the most realistic character. People will confuse that with boring and stale purely because the show is insane. But to be honest, that is like calling Jerry Seinfeld's character in Seinfeld(himself) boring: It just plain isn't true. He had many quirks and odd traits, but when compared to the others, he was tame.

Same with Stan. Butters is incredibly naive, Cartman is an evil bastard, Kyle acts as Cartman's foil so is proactive, and Kenny (used) to die all the time. (BTW, you want a boring character...go Kenny, Timmy, and Jimmy. Kenny and Timmy are one note characters and Jimmy is a one and a half.)
Stan, meanwhile, is just an average kid in a crazy world. That is what makes him unique and special in the show: In a sea of lunacy, he is the sanity.

But I will agree with you that the way he is USED is boring. The character is not boring- indeed, the character has extreme potential and is a breath iof fresh air when given ACTUAL stories- but the way the one-track mind of Trey Parker works is detrimental to him as a character.

[TheultimateKylefanboy1092]

*Breaks out the brass knuckles.*

Just kidding.

However, I take issue with calling Stan boring. He, himself, is not boring- he is, instead, the most realistic character. People will confuse that with boring and stale purely because the show is insane. But to be honest, that is like calling Jerry Seinfeld's character in Seinfeld(himself) boring: It just plain isn't true. He had many quirks and odd traits, but when compared to the others, he was tame.

Same with Stan. Butters is incredibly naive, Cartman is an evil bastard, Kyle acts as Cartman's foil so is proactive, and Kenny (used) to die all the time. (BTW, you want a boring character...go Kenny, Timmy, and Jimmy. Kenny and Timmy are one note characters and Jimmy is a one and a half.)
Stan, meanwhile, is just an average kid in a crazy world. That is what makes him unique and special in the show: In a sea of lunacy, he is the sanity.

But I will agree with you that the way he is USED is boring. The character is not boring- indeed, the character has extreme potential and is a breath iof fresh air when given ACTUAL stories- but the way the one-track mind of Trey Parker works is detrimental to him as a character.

Holy crap, you typed a mouth full. But if you don't like it with me saying that Stan is boring, that's fine. But I really do find him boring, I don't wanna get involved in any argument's or flame war's *cause of fear in getting banned from the site*, but I also respect how you say that he is an average kis in a crazy world. Cause South Park is a crazy place. And the reason why I find him boring cause his personanilty is boring. So, please don't flame or hate on me for what I just said, I just wanted to let you know my responce to that.

[Mutt]

Hey Kenny's not boring!Though I admit Timmy & Jimmy are waaay boring they need to be booted off the show. Kenny on the other hand, just like Stan, the way he is USED(or rarely used) is boring when they dropped off the dying joke they seem to have found it very hard to use Kenny anymore for anything other then pervy plots. Which drives me nut he has extreme potential but Matt & Trey just refuse to give him any spotlight or any action like they do with the other three. But the fact is that his character isn't boring it's just not being used. Or better yet Kenny is just so damn awesome and too much action that Matt & Trey just can't animate it its that KICK ASS lol hey maybe its the same with Stan. But still Stan still seems boring to me even in the first seasons I never really cared for Stan I took him with the four boys package and I felt bad whenever Shelly beat the crap out of him but he's just so plain for a place like South Park yet then again you need a sane, normal character to balance the show haha.

[IronWillStan]

Holy crap, you typed a mouth full. But if you don't like it with me saying that Stan is boring, that's fine. But I really do find him boring, I don't wanna get involved in any argument's or flame war's *cause of fear in getting banned from the site*, but I also respect how you say that he is an average kis in a crazy world. Cause South Park is a crazy place. And the reason why I find him boring cause his personanilty is boring. So, please don't flame or hate on me for what I just said, I just wanted to let you know my responce to that.


I'm not flaming or hating. We're having a debate; debates are fun and good.

@Mutt: Kenny has potential- but his character is fairly noted and not developed or developing. It isn't that he is without hope, but his character is the following:
Pervert.
Poor.
Died a lot.

Now in the South Park Universe, a forum I have, we are developing him further. He certainly has potential and you are right that the problem is how he is being used, but at the same time, even when he is being used, all of his actions are based in some ways around those three things.
For now, anyway. He still has wild potential, which is why in the Universe, he is the 4th, not Butters.

[Jake, Mkay?]

I personally like Stan more than Kyle...
Without Cartman Kyle woud be pretty boring IMO...

I wouldnt call Stan boring but just more normal than everyone else i guess.

[TheSouthParkGentlemen]

I personally like Stan more than Kyle...
Without Cartman Kyle woud be pretty boring IMO...

I wouldnt call Stan boring but just more normal than everyone else i guess.

I agree with you Jake, I also wouldn't call Stan boring, I just find him more, well, normal than the rest of the kid's.

[Mutt]

I'm not flaming or hating. We're having a debate; debates are fun and good.

@Mutt: Kenny has potential- but his character is fairly noted and not developed or developing. It isn't that he is without hope, but his character is the following:
Pervert.
Poor.
Died a lot.

Now in the South Park Universe, a forum I have, we are developing him further. He certainly has potential and you are right that the problem is how he is being used, but at the same time, even when he is being used, all of his actions are based in some ways around those three things.
For now, anyway. He still has wild potential, which is why in the Universe, he is the 4th, not Butters.

That is exactly what I feel and said.I wish Matt & Trey would develop his character more but it's quite impossible to do when they rarely use him at all and when they do it's always a perverted plot such as The Ring or Major Boobage but in so many episodes it's like he doesn't even exist or he doesn't show up at all how can he developed if he's not even in the picture? What's sad is that Kenny has been with South Park since the beginning and the first 5 seasons the only thing M&T worry about him is how he was going die and then they got tired of that joke and almost completely dropped it and now Kenny has nothing else.

In my fanfic world I try to give him extra but the fans at fanfiction.com complain that it's out of his character,screw them anyway, when in truth according to South Park they're is not much to his character and I pointed out that I didn't want him to be a single minded pervert he can still have a dirty mind but it doesn't mean that that's ALL he is. He has so much potential and it can only be shown in the fanfic world because M&T only want to focus on Cartman,Stan,Randy,and Butters. Kenny is pretty much at the bottom of their important character list. I shall stop now since this thread is about Stan and not Kenny :o , perhaps we should open a debate thread thingy heh?

[tweek]

Um dude is there anything you DONT hate?

[Cupcakemarie]

don't bother starting a flame war with alex, I might have to bring out my lawn chair and popcorn.

http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt111/cupcakemariepics/cartmanlawnchair.jpg

[IronWillStan]

I don't see where the flamewar is...

[Cupcakemarie]

One started in another topic a month ago. I'm just being a snarky bastard because that image of cartman pops into my head when people fight on the internet.

umm I like stan, stan is cool. I think he deserved to get hit with a chair by shelly when he asked her where the clitoris is. I love when shelly beats stan, it's wrong but it makes me laugh.

[tweek]

That is one hot picture of Cartman.

[Cupcakemarie]

he's mine, back off. *growls* =p

[JVM]

A major reason why Stan is interesting is kind of ruined by us (myself included, mind you)

A major reason why Stan is interesting is because he's the only boy who's in love - he's with Wendy. Kenny, Kyle and Cartman don't have recurring girlfriends. A lot of us - aka, an overwhelming majority - give Kyle girlfriends in our fanfics. This takes a lot of uniqueness away from Stan because now we can simply explore Kyle's relationships. No need to use Stan to explore love. This makes Stan less unique.

And to be frank, the only two major key differences between Stan and Kyle are the Kyle-Cartman rivalry and Kyle being Jewish. Stan's been displaying a Kyle-like temper in recent seasons and Kyle has been a lot more calm in recent seasons.

[tweek]

Stans cool. He's way different to Kyle.

[Frenkie]

I think Stan is amazing. He's single-handedly mind-****ed John Edward, a large number of Scientologists, Jesus, voters in general, AA and God knows who else... he's also an animal-lover, sensitive to the point of Goth-tendencies and the straight-man-with-a-girlfriend on top of all that. And possibly a cough syrup addict.
I think he's really funny and generally awesome. I love him and Randy together -how cynical and precocious he in contrast to Randy's childlike ways- and I think any scene with the Marsh family having dinner is brilliant... which it wouldn't be without Stan there.
Though I know it's not that common, I love how in sometimes they'll be being told some incredible revelation by the "bad guys" of a episode i.e. in Towelie/with the Super Adventure Club and Stan is just like, "don't care, don't care, don't care".
^^ His impassiveness seriously cracks me up.
He's also *almost* as cute as Kenny and Kyle.

+ I like him more in the slightly later seasons, like around season 6-11.

On another note, anyone who calls insults Kenny should go... suffer, and die. Fact.
Hopefully by having their limbs chopped off one by one. Okay I don't know if I can say that... obviously I don't mean in but everything Mutt said was right and I guess, I think at least a few people need to defend him.

And I don't think Stan and Kyle are really that similar. In early seasons, granted, they were very different to how they are now, but I think that if you look at their character currently on the show Stan is definitely more logical and feels a desire to subvert things while Kyle is more religious/philosophical. Kyle comes from an extremely traditional family and Stan's family is screwy and dysfunctional. Stan is generally quite impassive, at least towards other child characters - he just gets frustrated by adult stupidity.
I think there's a big difference in that Stan directs his anger at adults and leadership, while Kyle directs his at other kids i.e. Cartman. Kyle is also generally more a lot more naive. And have you ever seen Stan wake up screaming in the night, which Kyle has been known to do on at least a couple of occasions? Stan also tends to “hedge” when asked his opinion on things, either in terms of on a larger scale, like voting, or when a disagreement occurs in the group. Kyle isn’t exactly known to do this...
Really, I don’t see them as that similar. I guess on an extremely basis fundamental level there aren’t that many differences, but I don’t think there really is with many real life best friends either... and some realism is always good. That was going to be my other thing about Stan – I generally view him as the most realistic, complex character.
...
I feel like I'm exploiting my right to say controversial things and not agree with people given I barely have 10 posts on here. Sorry about that. I don't mean to insult anyone... I just feel really strongly, as I'm sure other people do.

[bridon#1fan]

long paragraph dude

[Frenkie]

Yup, it was.

[bridon#1fan]

that guy had a permit ban

[djlee6]

i agree that stan has some good points, but i find him annoying at times
its all "wendy wendy wendy" and its driving me nuts!!
when kyles passionate about something, its because of his personal beliefs, not because he wants to impress some girl
hes more like "fuck off bebe" lmao!
stan only speaks up when its because of his girl or because its annoying to him. like in the episode You Have 0 Friends when he ragged on facebook
i dont like fb much either, but i wanted to punch him in the dick! shut up already stan!! lol

[bridon#1fan]

oooh kay? i don't wanna go that harsh on stan

[djlee6]

im not trying to be harsh...im just saying that when the episode has him and wendy together, he gets a little irritating
he does have his fun little points lol
i just wish he'd relax more

[bridon#1fan]

to me kyle has more rage than stan